Rosewicket Wicca Coven

Okay, so yes she seems like a WONDERFUL author, but some of her writings are false. Not that she promotes Dark Magick! No not at all! But some of her dates for the Sabbats and definitions for other things are false. I just want y'all to be aware of this. Just in case.

Hm... That's odd. Thanks for the warning!

also all she really gives you are spells. they are good ones, dont get me wrong, but she doesnt really teach you anything. Well at least in the ones iv read.

alongside the fact she thinks chanting wrong over a candle could kill people.

I haven't heard of her, but thanks for telling me for the future!

Silver Ravenwolf is highly recomended by fluffies and very frowned upon by experienced (by this I mean 20 + years) wiccans.

I think yeah, you could read her books, but they would be a waste of time.

I did however find a lovely book that referenced silver ravenwolf, but it was a very worth while read all the same. I believe it's called 'Confessions of a Teenage Witch' By Gwinevere Rain. By the time I found it, I had enough experience to know that the information in it was correct, even though the author referencedn not-so-well-recomended writers.. 

It sounds lame and fluffy, I know, but it was really good, especially if you're just getting started. It's the perfect first Read for new-wiccans, even though at first glance it sounds overly-dramatic, it is very matter-of-fact while still being do-what-works-for-you.

COTW has actually been reccommended to me by many, I'm going to read it, seems good.

I agree, it is.

And sorry for the double post...I didn't realize it untill now...it was supposed to be an edit.

I may be all wet but "the ultimate book of shadows for the new generation solitary witch" was very informative to me as I was learning. I can see how it would be borning for those with greater knowledge but I think it was really a good jump off point for me. I am still reading and reference it but I will take all of your advice into consideration. Thanks.

the book the witch alone has gotten a LOT of comments in sites im exploring. they have said that you can go study it 1 yr and 1dy. and still reference it. its mostly a wiccan not witchcraft

I don't think you can study one book for your year-and-a-day studying. That's just, in my veiw, not possible.

You're year and a day studying gets you to First degree.

Then you can join a coven and get to second degree.

Then when you are ready, you can advance to third degree and become an HP, HPS, or elder teacher in the coven.

I think, even as great as The Witch Alone is, it's not a "get-into-your-coven-free" card. I'm sure there is more intesive studying then that. However, it is a wonderful read for beginners and solitaries. I often wish I owned a copy of the one I read, as it would be a nifty thing to refer to when I needed a reference.

I've never really like an established order. As a free spirit I'd like to think people join coven for learning and practise as well as being in a group of people you feel comfortable with. The thought of me needing to do a year and a day of studying for a degree is quite overwhelming. This is religion, not university. You can't evaluate someone's level of interest or belief, it's just impossible. If getting degress is what is needed to prove your worth to a coven, than I'd rather be a solitary witch.

But that's just my view. I do of course believe that more experienced members get the position of HP and HPS but of course this goes without saying.

Blessed Be

Neelhtak, every tradition and ever coven is different. Most traidiotnal paths - like Gardarian or Alexandrian- do require that you know a little bit about wicca before you join. I'vce spoken to a few wiccans in covens before and of course you continue to learn in covens, that's mainly what they're for, learning and spiritual expressios...But you are expected to know who Gardener was and how many sabbats there are and things like that...It's not so much "to prove you're worthy" as it is just to be sure people are on the same page and the older members don't have to explain to newbies what a pentagram means.

But anyway, I wasn't saying that the degree system is good or bad, I'm just saying you can't read one single book for yur first degree training. I mean, if you only read one book in your practice of wicca, no matter how good it was, you would be missing a lot, wouldn't you?

In my experience no matter how long you've been studying you should always keep going, there is always going to be something new to learn, in fact in a lot of ways that is a main part of Wicca, the gathering of knowledge. There may be one book that you find yourself refering back to again and again, but that is one authors view, and only part of their knowledge, it is by reading many articles, books and websites that you begin to amass a greater knowledge of Wicca as a whole. This coven never has and never will be a coven of degrees (at least while I lead it), because to me that is not the way Wicca should work, but I do know that the degrees of initiation work very well for some. It all depends on the person. If the degrees of initiation seem right to you, then if/when you join a coven you may be better off going for one that works that way, and if they don't then head to one that doesn't have them. Wicca is varied because humans are, each of us has are own particular way of practicing, even if its just changing the odd word in a rite, and this variety has created a tapestry, each thread is made by each person, and no two are the same.

Chi at 08:40AM on Sep 10, 2009

Neelhtak, every tradition and ever coven is different. Most traidiotnal paths - like Gardarian or Alexandrian- do require that you know a little bit about wicca before you join. I'vce spoken to a few wiccans in covens before and of course you continue to learn in covens, that's mainly what they're for, learning and spiritual expressios...But you are expected to know who Gardener was and how many sabbats there are and things like that...It's not so much "to prove you're worthy" as it is just to be sure people are on the same page and the older members don't have to explain to newbies what a pentagram means.

 

But anyway, I wasn't saying that the degree system is good or bad, I'm just saying you can't read one single book for yur first degree training. I mean, if you only read one book in your practice of wicca, no matter how good it was, you would be missing a lot, wouldn't you?

Oh, I understand now, sorry about that, I forgot the Alexandian and Gardarian coven systems. My bad.

I do agree with you, I've found that I swap between books all the time.

Thanks for the response,

-BB

Neelhtak, it's no trouble at all, I'm glad I was of some help (I think). I agree with you that sometimes a strict order is not always the best learning environment, and Felicia is right...No matter how much you learn, you never really know all there is to know, so no one is ever "done" learning.

personally i think she is an amazing writer, i have read many others but silverravenwolf has been the most helpful so far. Everyone has different opinions guys, so maybe her sabbat days etc is wrong, doesnt mean shes a bad writer i still consider myself a learner, and have found her a great guide/jump off point to start my own research etc.

This is quite the list of books. I've known to like some of what Silver Ravenwolf has said, and other times I look at it and say "that doesn't seem right". but I do have a few questions as a beginner. Is there such thing as an "Ultamate Guide"? one that has anything and everything you'll need. Any book recomendations would be extremely helpful. I not only ask this as a girl trying to find her legs in this world, but as a student who wants to set the record straight about the Culture of Wicca (Via English assignment and pressentation).

 Blessed Be!!! ~~~ Dawn

If you ask me, Dawn, I do not believe there is an ultimate guide. You can study any faith (and how it relates to you) for your lifetime and not know everything - so how could it possibly all fit into a book?

But that is just my thinking. I believe the 'ultimate guide' concept is meant to give beginners "all the basics". I do believe, however, that your learning is more important then what you read in a book.